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Shahid

aka Shahid Hussain

732 Edits since joining this wiki
July 28, 2009

Wikianswers Homepage Update Edit

I love the homepage, it starting to look really interesting! I wanted to let you know that the "Featured Category: Health" questions are cut off when viewed in a resolution 1024x768 laptop screen. This is an example of it: [1]. I hope this helps. Several months ago Angela found a way to fix this same incident but I don't know how she did it. --Molokaicreeper 04:03, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. There was a parameter in the divs that prevented the section from being more than 100px high, which wasn't enough for lower resolutions. Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 04:50, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
Awesome, it looks fantastic! Thanks! :) --Molokaicreeper 04:55, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
Any time. :) Wjxhuang, the 888th Avatar {Talk} 04:58, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
Thank you both - I hadn't spotted that problem for 1024 screens! --Shahid 18:23, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

New Answers skin Edit

I'll be bugging you about the new Answers skin soon enough, so figured I'd introduce myself in advance :D A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 14:59, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Greetings :) --Shahid 16:18, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
And so it begins.
Why does the bar at the top of the page have no clearly visible border when the bar is the same colour as the background?
Where is the link to Recent Changes?
Where is the link to the talk page of whatever page you happen to be on at that time?
Does it have to use that new in the middle design which looks hideous (no offense) on wide screen moniters?
Can we have a toolbox please?
The finished project will have a search bar. Right? RIGHT?
The edit links are nigh on invisible. I only see them when I look at the pencil icon. This will be remedied at some time in the future, yes?
I've been informed in #wikia that there is a link to watch the page you're currently on. I can honestly say that after extensive searching, I've yet to find evidence of this claim.
If the above is false, why is there no such link?
How exactly are people meant to search through existing questions on this skin?
For that matter, how do you search through existing non-question pages?
The page count says X articles on this Wiki. Will the word Questions replace this as the default at any stage?
On user pages, the headers Recently Asked Questions and Recently Edited Questions aren't underlined - their lines are over the headers themselves. I forgive you as it's the same as on the current Answers skin. Will this be fixed at some time in the near future?
At the top of the page it says w[k]a answers. When you click on w[k]a, you can see that the selectable panel extends all the way to the left edge of the page. This is unfortunate when viewed on a widescreen moniter. Are there plans to amend this?
Google Ads is currently quite intrusive while you are logged in. Is this intentional..?
How does one find their way to their own user talk page?
How does one find their way to another's talk page in the userspace?
The majority of people (that I've seen) in #wikia have displayed some displeasure at the skin in general. Is there somewhere that those among us can provide feedback? (No offense, but don't say your talk page. You'd need to archive too often I imagine).
Oops. I mistakingly saved this (not with the Save page button - I'm not that moronic). For the sake of convenience I'll let you have a go at what's here before adding more.
Cheers. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 22:51, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, this one I'll forget. Currently on the new skin, if you change your UserWiki page to your default instead of the profile, it glitches. When you go to edit the page, it gives you the profile fields to fill in. Fix please. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 13:29, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
I also have some points on this. The huge one being: Where is the edit button for the article? I don't mean the regular questions, but for just about everything else. Do we really need to use the yucky [edit] button? I would also like to reiterate what A F K said about the RC link. I, like most other experienced Wikia editors, much prefer the recent changes to myhome. While it is a nice thing sometimes, the recent changes is just so much more effective at showing the..well..recent changes. Ajraddatz Talk 23:11, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
A link to the page history would be nice too :)
There's also a few problems with diffs not displaying. I'm not sure which ones do and don't display, but can give a few examples. here and here
Could we have the Alt + (Shift) + E, Alt + (Shift) + H, Alt + (Shift) + T shortcuts for edit, history and talk added and any others which may be missing? Alt + (Shift) + R and changing the url directly are the only convenient ways of accessing the Recent changes I can find.
Even tabs/buttons to said pages/actions would be useful (although I think that's already mentioned above).
Slightly unrelated, but is there any chance registered users will be allowed to select monobook or monaco as their default skin for the answers wikis in the near future? I occasionally edit Wikia Answers, but find myself constantly adding &useskin=monobook to the end of urls. -- Deltaneos (talk) 23:40, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
Not to be rude, but I do contest the notion that adding something directly to a url is convenient. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 12:40, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
Hi all - thank you for the detailed feedback. This is great, and I'll check through the list.
I should make clear that what we're trying to build isn't a traditional wiki site, so it's OK that a lot of the controls and tools you might expect from MediaWiki aren't here. We're trying our best to make using the site as easy as possible for new / casual users. People who use Yahoo! mail, people who use Yelp, Amazon and consumer websites. Hence - for some of the points above we may decide to vote in favour of simplicity for those new / casual users. That said, we're always looking to make things clearer and hearing your feedback is super useful.
So - it's probably best to view these new sites as something new - an addition to the ability you have on Wikia to start and generate amazing wikis with all the power of recent changes, diffs, custom CSS and JS. We're now offering a way to set up Answers sites with an easy learning curve that is just right for people who do use the web, but just want to set something up quickly.
I hope this helps make things clear - please do continue to share your feedback! --Shahid 19:26, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
As a supervisor here, I would find it very difficult to do menial tasks such as fixing redirects without a clear link to the special pages. A link to the RC would be nice to, as stated many times above. I see the need for simplicity, but at the same time you can't drive away all of the experienced editors.
Also, I am curious. When will the new skin be released? Thanks, Ajraddatz Talk 00:21, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
I have to agree on how hard it will be for us the managers and supervisors to do any cleanup in a setup like that. A massive amount of things are missing. For example, the Wikianswers Toolbox (although small and unattractive) it's definitely a NEEDED source specially for those who are serious about the site, and it should always be visible to any registered user. Also with the new design, you're not giving new users the chance to become more involved, making them depend on the "easy" part and not having any options to move deeper into the wiki; or to experiment. I am surprised how many people have knowledge on wikis right now, which is a good thing, but this new setup plans to keep people in the darkness (much like the rest of the web)... hmm. --Molokaicreeper 07:13, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
Ahem, WikiAnswers much? ---> Wikianswers Reviews sorry it's starting to look like it to me. --Molokaicreeper 07:19, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
As both a Supervisor, Contributor and (I like to fancy myself one) a member of the Community, all I can do is repeat Ajraddatz's statement above.
Simplicity is a great tool. To achieve it you can make a very-prominently-linked-to help page telling new contributors the essentials, and to ignore everything else.
However, imho, hiding things like Recent Changes is absurd, and when wikianswers begins using the new skin, I for one will be forced to reconsider my position as Supervisor here. I'm not experienced at having to directly manipulate the URL to get near enough anywhere, and that would make my visits to wikianswers rather straining on my time for wikis in general.
I would beg and plead to you and any others involved to observe the fact that - out of every single reponse on this page (and invariably in #wikia) - there has been NOT ONE positive thing said about the new skin.
The wikia community has seen it. We've shown all the problems with it. Nearly every change to the skin has been found to be unpopular in the extreme. We have seen it just as we have rejected it. Do we get any say in this?
Trolls will troll. Vandals will vandalize. Please don't chase away the people who combat them, or wikianswers will go down the drain. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 12:47, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
Hi all - thank you for the continued feedback. --Shahid 02:02, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
one positive thing. The new skin supports WikEd, which is excelent. However, may I repeat AFK's talk about it not having useful features, most notably: The link to RC, or indeed any other special pages, a search box (so we don't have to enter things in manually, and a way to remove the chat would be nice, and MediaWiki:Ask a question to have {{sitename}} instead of $SITENAME.
Something like Mendelbook, a mash up of the current skin would be perfect RandomTime 20:07, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

I have 2 additional questions:

  1. Where on earth is the edit button?
  2. WHERE ON EARTH IS THE EDIT BUTTON?

Am I just blind, or is it really not there? RandomTime 21:26, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

sage in all fields Anonymous 21:39, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

No editing available for comments... Edit

Yeah I see what you mean... I think my biggest concern is how un-stylish the whole thing is. You used to be able to post youtube videos, tables, even CSS if you wanted to, and now it seems that's something of the past.

As you can see in this review, which I happened to be the answerer to, this is the way the original answer looked like and this is what we have now... It shows the answerer as "anonymous" no offense but this is an absolute disaster, and how exactly can we see the history of the answer when there is no way to see history; and is there going to be such thing as history for comments?

And well, better change the name too! Because a wiki is a site anyone can edit but it doesn't look like I actually CAN edit that answer currently. --Molokaicreeper 22:36, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah I forgot, IF this design is still in development, and you guys are still working on it, why not try it in just ONE answers wiki rather than changing SO MANY:
http://inquiringmoms.answers.wikia.com/
http://prowrestling.answers.wikia.com/
http://reviews.wikia.com/
http://doctors.answers.wikia.com/
I wonder if there are many others, shouldn't have one been enough (even a experimental temporary answers wiki for testing purposes)? And I can't help but ask, why didn't you guys create a "dummy" answers wiki then announced on the homepage here, to have the members of the community choose what they liked best? Is Wikia turning into a dictator type of site in which things are done first and ask the community later, or worst yet, "change it and if they don't say anything then I guess they liked it". I honestly believe the community needed to be consulted for these drastic changes because as you can see, there are lots of people disappointed. I happen to be an admin in Inquiring Moms, and I can't say I was EVER consulted about this. --Molokaicreeper 22:51, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
RE:"Is Wikia turning into a dictator type of site in which things are done first and ask the community later, or worst yet, "change it and if they don't say anything then I guess they liked it"."
They've already done a "change it and put your fingers in your ears", see monaco.Wikia is a company, with the prime purpose of generating profit, not a non-profit (like the wikimedia foundation is), so your argument of community consultation is somewhat flawed. RandomTime 02:03, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
Flawed or otherwise, Molokaicreeper builds logic on premises superior to your own.
Wikia + 0 Contributors ≠ Profit. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 00:14, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
Agree. You also have to remember that people still have the option to choose Monobook skin in most wikis, if they want to; but with the new design (I was told) you will not have a choice to keep the old design at all. --Molokaicreeper 01:07, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
Additionally, in conjunction with A F K's point, the people in question here arguing this are all people who are volunteering as managers/supervisors. When the supposedly "most trusted" members of the community are complaining about something, then that might be a clue that something is wrong. Wikia + 0 contributors ≠ profit. Wikianswers + no local admins = staff management = (Some better word for complete fail) Ajraddatz Talk 03:53, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hi all - thank you for your continued comments. I wanted to explain a little behind our motivations here - I hope this will at least help everyone understand where we're coming from.

First - Reviews is a bit of a different beast than the regular Answers sites like ProWrestling. As you've noticed, we've been using article comments (as seen in recipies.wikia) as a way to let people submit multiple reviews of the same thing. We wanted to test out giving every contributor their own space ... for a lot of regular users, a normal wiki article isn't ideal for this. This very page is a good example - for anyone unfamiliar with wikis, it's not clear that in order to submit a new comment this talk page, you need to edit the page and leave a note at the bottom. However, article comments aren't as easy to administrate as a regular wiki article. So - right now, this format is something we're testing out (and is only present on Reviews) - hearing how it's hard for you to work with is good feedback that we need to hear.

Second - the Answers sites. It is important for us to work with communities on the sites we're changing - for that reason, xbox.answers, anime.answers and this site are still on the old skin. All of these sites have a fairly active or very active community. In these cases, we will need to do some work to figure out how best to incorporate access to the tools you're used to, while keeping it simple to use. In a nutshell, the learning curve for new users will plateau at some point, and we need to figure out how to extend this. Since everyone commenting is awesome at understanding and using wikis already, I completely understand that using the new sites can be frustrating - we're laser focused right now on making it easy for new users to get on board.

I hope this explains some of the reasons behind what we're doing right now. We do value having a great community of people who are stopping vandalism, welcoming new users and contributing great content, and we hope to hear more from you all as things develop. --Shahid 02:00, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Apologies, I've been busy in RL(tm) but I'm back again (no doubt you're delighted...)
Can I ask, for the sake of curiosity, what's currently being considered?
A new usergroup that people start off in without access to more than the bare minimum, gaining access to the rest when they request it?
Some kind of personal .css / .js or whatever which adds on things that "aren't a part of" the skin itself?
I'm just curious, and while I've my doubts, I would like to help with the new skin in any way that I can; currently I believe that's by talking to you, for which I apologize profusely. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 17:19, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks... Edit

I see the idea behind how "Reviews" works. As a heavy user of Amazon here's a point of advice: 100 reviews about a website will not do me much good when I'm in a hurry to know the overall customer satisfaction from it. Amazon has a star system that shows you in the search how many stars an item has, it gives you a rough idea of how good the item is without you getting into details about it. I am glad I have the option to click on the item and read reviews if I have the time, but the stars show me an estimate about the item. Wikia Reviews needs something similar. For example:

  • 123 customer reviews - 78% positive 21% negative 1% neutral.

It doesn't take much room and it fits anywhere. Without this the whole magic of what Wikia Reviews is, could be over-powered by "other" companies who like to copy what Wikia does. And if Wikia Reviews becomes a hit, there will be many of those around. Just being honest because I know about copy-cat companies. There should be a thumbs-up and thumb-down to help with this next to the comments space. --Molokaicreeper 04:49, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Wikianswers Anime and the new skin Edit

First, I should say that I really appreciate Wikia spending this much effort in Wikianswers wikis. After Wikia promoted Wikianswers Anime a little with the wikianswers widget, Wikianswers Anime became a really active wiki and has almost 15.000 answers to about 17.000 questions. When I noticed the skin change in other wikianswers wikis, like inquiringmoms and wikia reviews, I was really disappointed and told Angela right away that I didn't want the current skin in Wikianswers Anime to change. I also mentioned my dislike of the new skin to Gil and then once again to Angela. A month ago Angela told me the skin on Wikianswers Anime would be changed in a couple of weeks and I had to agree to it. I was planning on making the most of the new skin as best as I could, but the skin never changed.

What concerns me is that because of the new skin, the current skin (and maybe the system all together) is not getting enough attention. There are so many bugs in Wikianswers Anime that I can't get around the wiki without frustration which really limits my time there. To list a few bugs:

(Sorry to cut here, but even just now as I'm writing this I got a message from a trusted user that he can't accept or add friends and that he can't use message boards. He thought I restricted him from doing so. If it wasn't a user with some experience I have a hard time thinking they'd ever actually comeback to edit more questions.)

  • The edit page has no buttons.
  • CategorySelector isn't visible and we can't edit categories without turning of the extension, which I don't think %90 of the users know how or care enough to do so.
    • This brings a lot of questions without categories for some reason and fellow admins and editors just think that they can't change categories anymore.
  • UserBoard extension doesn't work. None of the buttons in the extension works. I can't accept friend requests or send messages. One user said this: "try and accept my request the one you sent me wont do anything if i click accept". So it's not a problem only I'm experiencing and as I have said before starting to list, when a user couldn't send messages or accept friend requests, he thought I restricted him from doing so.
  • CategoryHubs still doesn't show how many questions are in the category or a way to better navigate between the vast number of questions in some categories. Plus, it doesn't work with the new skin either.
  • Tags. Why did the categories changed to tags. Okay, tags are used more than categories but when you say tags, people start actually tagging questions. There isn't much right now but users will eventually start unnecessarily tagging questions with character names, things like anime/manga, etc. In Wikianswers Anime, we only the name of the series, nothing more. If tags turn into something like tecnorati tags in blogspot I don't think we can manage the categories well in Wikianswers Anime.
  • I can't save pages. I mean I do, but sometimes I takes up to 1 minute of refreshing to see the changes.
  • Redirects doesn't work most of the time. And since there isn't a redirect button (or any other buttons) in the edit page, users have to type redirect markup over and over again, since redirect templates doesn't work.
  • The default unanswered question page is messed up. The "answer this question" button has a dark gray background and is a list element. It didn't look like that a couple of weeks back, so I suppose this is a glitch too.
  • The custom welcome-user message was changed to something generic for some reason. It didn't show up on the recent changes, so I assume it was a forced change like all categories changing to tags.

I'm frustrated enough with these things that I'm actually scared to check if there is anything else wrong with the system or the current skin. I find it funny for an active and growing wiki to have this much problems. Especially when people who are suppose to fix it are working on a new skin that no one actually likes or finds useful. Maybe it's just my dislike of the new skin that I think like this. I'm not active enough in Wikianswers Xbox to know if these bugs occur there but I'm pretty sure they don't occur here. So I have to think that these problems can actually be solved, so why aren't they? I may not have mentioned this specific bugs up until now, but I have complained to Gil about some of them. Is this how Wikia works now? You don't even check to see if everything is alright when an admin complains about bugs? I think you'd notice some if you had actually checked. I'm pretty sure I'm not just imagining all of them just so I can bother staff members.

~ Akadirgun (userpagetalk) 19:00, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Same here, WikiRespuestas and Wikianswers are both experiencing some of those problems; specially the absence of the edit buttons, and the character template at the bottom. They both just don't work (or load). AND yet those wikis haven't been switched to the new design. An admin in WikiRespuestas has found a workaround for the edit buttons and you can find it here: [2], ours is here: w:c:respuestas:MediaWiki:Common.js perhaps you can find a temporary workaround for the edits buttons at least. --Molokaicreeper 21:06, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the code. It seems to have fixed the issue with edit buttons for now. Yet CategorySelector and edittools are still a problem. ~ Akadirgun (userpagetalk) 21:59, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Forum Talk Edit

There is a heavy discussion in the forum about all of this. Perhaps we can address those issues there much better.

The edit buttons should be temporarily fixed for now, I've updated MediaWiki:Common.js hopefully that helps somewhat. --Molokaicreeper 05:00, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

We have a problem, Shahid.

Button-bar

A lot of buttons are getting repeated. --Whiteguru 00:19, March 23, 2010 (UTC)Whiteguru

We spotted that just as we were fixing the button issues, which were all related to the core javascript not loading on this whole site. It should be fixed now ... can you force refresh that page? Thanks for the report BTW. --Shahid 02:07, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
Nope that doesn't work. Only get two map buttons now, redirect, category and delete buttons are gone, is there any specific reason why my edit on that page was changed again? The site is SO terribly SLOW too. This is getting too frustrating, it was never this frustrating to do anything here in Wikianswers before. --Liliana (my talk). 02:30, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
Oh never mind, I see why now. Thanks for fixing that, still it would be great if delete and redirect buttons are available (if possible), they are very necessary. I see the character template palette and the category section has been fixed, that helps a bunch. --Liliana (my talk). 08:45, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Issues needing attention on WikianswersEdit

Javascript


I have noticed when editing that a lot of questions have repeated categories, like so.

Double-banger

When adding categories, it is not unusual to find that the categories are repeated. If, in visual view, we add a category by typing and selecting an item from the drop down box, it gets repeated, even though it is selected only once.

However, if you were to ignore the drop down list and simply type in the category, it is not duplicated. --Whiteguru 20:25, March 27, 2010 (UTC)Whiteguru

Your attention is needed hereEdit

Please give us some update about what's going to happen in the next weeks, too much suspense and we are (I know I am) getting impatient about this change. --Liliana (my talk). 00:04, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

You are not the only one who's getting impatient. I'm getting quite impatient as well. I have told about the problems Wikianswers Anime, and obviously some other Wikianswers wikis, having but there is still no official reply from Shahid or a staff member as to what they plan on doing. I feel like we are getting ignored and there is yet to be anything that proves otherwise. ~ Akadirgun (userpagetalk) 03:56, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
I would like to add my name to those above politely requesting more transparency when it comes to what our feedback will result in, if at all possible. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 18:24, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Updates Edit

Hi all,

Thanks for the information that's dropping in here. I'm sorry it's taken a few days to come back to you - as you might expect, we're firefighting a little on issues that are cropping up both here and elsewhere, while thinking about more fun stuff we can launch for you all.

I have my user talk page open pretty much permanently, so I am taking note of what's going on here.

We've fixed a few things that have been going awry:

  • Repeated buttons issue on the edit screen
  • Double categories appearing
  • The X button on those categories in the edit screen

If you're still seeing those pop up, please let me know. Screenshots (as you've been doing) are awesome and much appreciated.

So - on to the plan. In short, we're planning on moving the remaining satellite sites over next week (that's anime, xbox, legal). I'm hoping to also get this site moved either that week or week after next.

Right now, the plan is to do this:

  • add in a simplified toolbox-like area somewhere, either reusing special:mypage/monaco-toolbox or something similar
  • Get search onto the skin somewhere that it doesn't interfere with the ask box
  • Get a tag cloud widget on by default (should appear tomorrow) which will help with navigating around the site.
  • Get a founder badge widget (should appear tomorrow). This just shows the site founder user badge (likely with an exception of the main site).
  • Move the category hubs onto the front page by default, while (we hope) keeping the front page easily editable by anyone handy with wikitext.
  • Enable a theming functionality (likely after the move).

Right now, I'm not planning on using the quick action panel for the new skin at all. I know that a lot of you use it, and I'm certainly in favour of using javascript on the page to allow super quick answering and editing - but I don't think it's the right implementation. It's possible to get *used* to it, but I think we can put together something that is useful for both consistent and casual editors. So - Whiteguru, I have verified the issue you mentioned with the QAP, but as you might imagine, fixing it isn't a priority right now - we're focusing on developing the new skin further to make these functions easy to do by anyone.

Please understand that there is a bunch of fluidity here - times, dates, features will probably change over the next week or so. But I hope this helps indicate where we're at right now. --Shahid 19:05, March 31, 2010 (UTC)


Well, I had noticed things had improved dramatically since yesterday, and answsering questions is just about back to normal, with the exception of actionpanel, as you mention. Seems you have a whole slew of changes ready to go out there, so we will watch with interest. I will be curious to see what sort of quick-edit-reply solution you come up with; actionpanel, while useful, draws complaints from many editiors, I have to admit.--Whiteguru 21:14, March 31, 2010 (UTC)Whiteguru

Category box has (disappeared)(stopped working)Edit

  • The button bar at the top has disappeared
  • At the bottom of the answers text field, the category box has disappeared again.
  • The Tag this question option button on the question page has stopped functioning.
  • Forcing MediaWiki:Common.js to refresh does not fix the problem.

Answerbox

  • And the signature button is gone. --Whiteguru 07:02, April 1, 2010 (UTC)Whiteguru
Hm - looks like javascript isn't loading at all for you. I checked here, and it's working OK (I'm on Chrome5/mac). Other here are also reporting that it's working. Could you try flushing your browser cache and try again? If that works, please drop a note in telling us your browser / OS. Thank you for letting us know about the issue! --Shahid 22:44, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Incorporating Wikianswers toolbox and Search Bar... Edit

I think that those features can be incorporated in the wiki without them being in the way of newcomers, by turning them into a widget. One widget alone can hold Search bar, Mediawiki sidebar and Wikianswers toolbox (all in one). Where a user can add links to their widget toolbox and it can grow bigger as needed (as the user keeps adding links). Since it can start with only the basics it shouldn't confuse users at all, and it can be turned on or off due to it being a widget. Perhaps a little late for that tip but I've been really busy, sorry. --Liliana (my talk). 08:12, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Odd IssuesEdit

  • While doing category checking and patrolling, I was attempting to move What_is_mosaic_diet from religion category to Judaism category. I could not remove religion from the tags. Each time I deleted religion, Judaism was duplicated and religion stayed put...

Mosaic-diet

I have tried refreshing MediaWiki:Common.js but this is to no avail. Using Chromium 5.0.374.0 on Windows 7 ... I have nothing at special:mypage/answers.js ...

Issue #2 There is an odd bug in the history page where, after a question is redirected, the history page loses all history and nothing is shown. I will see if I can supply some examples.--Whiteguru 22:50, April 10, 2010 (UTC)Whiteguru

I have been able to reproduce this issue in Ubuntu-Karmic with Chromium 5.0.372.0 ... If you go here you will see an example of what the problem is. Can't remove religion and move Joan of Arc to Saints category ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whiteguru (talkcontribs) at 00:01, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

The problem seems to be continuing with ordinary users also adding to the confusion
--Whiteguru 07:38, April 18, 2010 (UTC)Whiteguru

Fairytail

Thanks for reporting this everyone - I'll spend some time this morning checking it out. --Shahid 18:05, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Request Approx Date Edit

Hi again!

I'd be very grateful if you could give us a rough time of when the old skin will be scrapped and all Answers Wikis will be moved to the new one. As I'm sure you realize this will invariably mean a bit of extra work for the Administrators of affected Wikis; knowing when it would happen would be of huge benefit. A ball-park estimate would be fine.

Thanks! A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 16:23, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Hello AFK, I am sure they're doing their best to come up with dates and deadlines but things like the one I refer to in the section below are delaying their plans. I don't think they will be able to come up with a true estimate just yet. And the above mentioned estimate (from a week or so ago), might have been quite delayed as well. I am sure they're all very frustrated about not being able to solve some of these odd issues happening. Wouldn't like to be in their shoes either. --Liliana (my talk). 18:07, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe this will help? Edit

Hello Shahid, I hope this bit of information turns out to be helpful somewhat at least. --Liliana (my talk). 18:01, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Today's updates Edit

See Forum:Latest_changes.

Thanks, my response... --Liliana (my talk). 15:18, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Guide? Edit

Hiya!

First off, nice job. The new skin is growing on my bit by bit, when I invest time on adding a few links I may well come to like it more than the old one :)

I was just wondering if there's any ideas in the pipeline about a guide aimed at customizing the new Answers skin, as .css pages appear to be doing nothing whatsoever (I believe this is temporary... right?) and - you know more than anyone else - things have changed quite a bit.

While it might not be you in the end drawing up something like this I thought I'd field the question to you first (sorry).

So... yeah. Thanks for the multiple pre-made skins (a very plesant surprise) and investing so much time and effort into this! :) A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 19:31, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm having that problem as well in Marapets Answers the MediaWiki:Answers.css is just not working anymore. I see it is not working in Club Penguin Answers but it works in Harry Potter Answers and Fallout Answers; I was thinking it was an issue on my part with my browser and I was wondering if others could see the same I am seeing. Is it that there are conflicts in the css file we need to find? I would like to know what is wrong. --Liliana (my talk). 20:03, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
I'd agree that a guide of some kind (or a cheat sheet) is useful to have; we spend much more time on the site than most other users over an extended period of time. So customisation to enable a workspace we are satisfied with would be appreciated. --Whiteguru 22:24, April 30, 2010 (UTC)Whiteguru
Whiteguru changed my mind.
Cheat sheet > guide :P A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 12:01, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Customizing Monaco Edit

I've been using this Help Customizing Monaco, it has been very helpful for customizing my wikis. However I found this: "Edits to MediaWiki:Monaco.css will not show up for visitors until the site default is switched to Monaco Custom. In both cases, leave the site default on a preset Monaco theme until the custom theme is ready to go live."

However I looked for custom in my preferences but it's not there, only default. Now that the option is not there the custom skins wont show up. Am I correct? --Liliana (my talk). 01:03, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah and the one there is pointing to the wrong file, it should be pointing to MediaWiki:Answers.css. --Liliana (my talk). 02:09, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Delete Button on New Answers Skin Edit

Is visible to everyone; though you of course still need the right to make use of it.

Same happened when the masthead was introduced. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 17:21, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

There's a toolbox Edit

But I don't have one. :( A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 17:28, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yes there is a way to make the old toolbox show up. ;) --Liliana (my talk). 17:31, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
thank you
thank you
thank you A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 23:09, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Answers Carbon skin Edit

I love.

But all the white-on-white text is nasty :( A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 11:20, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Feedback Edit

None for you.

Give it a background or people won't bother trying to make out text which is directly over other text.

Sorry, but as a species we're rather lazy. :/ A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 11:21, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

On the new Answers skins we apparently have not yet uploaded enough maps Edit

Make More Maps

Can you fix this, or should we construct additional pylons? A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 12:26, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

When things get too long... they break. Edit

Toolbox History link

I can accept that we used a rather long name for the History tab which we'll stop using.

However, people tend to fiddle with things and it'd be nice if the toolbox would expand instead of stuff just getting pushed out. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 12:34, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I edit so much that, apparently, I can do six edits while a page loads... Edit

Six Edits

Am I pro or what? A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 12:40, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hello! :) What you're seeing is a fluctuation in the edit count within the system. One feature takes longer to update than the other, for example in my profile here, my edits were fluctuating by 12 not too long ago. Top of the page said one number and the Special:Editcount feature was saying another (which I have as custom in my profile), numbers were fluctuating by 12 (no kidding). I found that after we spoke about it someone must have reported it; they worked the next morning so I assume it was fixed by Wikia. I am sure it's a temporary issue however. --Liliana (my talk). 00:46, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
So - I *think* that this might be the two attribution types lagging differently. For example - you make an edit and the question attribution increments straight away, while the answer attribution takes some time to catch up. Would that fit with the behaviour you're seeing? --Shahid 15:59, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
I don't know, but upon reflection it's not important and probably not worth annoying developers over. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 22:15, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Renaming Questions Edit

Link plz. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 12:47, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

The new skin Edit

I love you A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 19:41, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Page → Talk link and Talk → Page links please Edit

At the top of every page, where they, uh, used to be. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 19:55, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

New MediaWiki pages Edit

We can haz list? :)

It'd be cool if it was part of the cheat sheet asked for above, but whatever suits you mate; we all know you're busy. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 20:13, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Garold8129 Edit

is bugged as hell. I tried to access a talk page by directly manipulating the URL (as I have no other way of doing so on Monaco). The result was finding my way to a non-existant question he'd asked, which had been answered by 777 unregistered contributors. His name is one I've seen bugged before.

There's a serious problem somewhere along the line. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 20:28, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I typeod the URL, but still don't understand what's going on here. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 20:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
Shahid this is getting out of hand. He's crediting with asking and answering a question I asked. The 777 unknowns are back and the History tab claims the page doesn't exist. What the hell? A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 20:32, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

All mainspace pages which do not exist (yet) are displayed as asked questions, created by the aforementioned account. 777 Unregistered Contributors are displayed as having answered the question (always 777). This comes into play if the page has never been gone near before, has been moved somewhere else with no redirect... Dang. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 20:35, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Not always 777, just found one with 782. Sorry. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 23:01, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
787'... the number appears to be slowly increasing, Shahid. So I'd surmise that it's reading something and not generating random numbers, but obviously this is your area of expertise, not mine ;) A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 12:25, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I love you, you love me, we're a happy family community... Edit

Hi!

A lot of stuff we've been talking about has started happening, and I just wanted to say thanks for listening and putting the work in! It really is appreciated.

Cheers! A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 21:55, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yay! I've passed your note on to the developers who have been doing the hard work. --Shahid 15:51, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 :) A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 22:14, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Petition Edit

We, the undersigned, hereby request that every page on the new Answers skin received an "Edit" button and a link to the talk page/ article page. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 17:52, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

  1. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 17:52, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  2. RandomTime 17:53, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  3. --Lewis Cawte (Talk - Contact) 17:56, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  4. The Solar Dragon (Talk)☆ 18:44, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  5. --El Nazgir sigEl_Nazgir 18:54, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  6. Almonds, the skin is messed up, and this could help loads. Yallow 20:31, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  7. Ajraddatz Talk 21:58, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
  8. Zemi Xylex 19:27, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
  9. Liliana (my talk). 13:40, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

What to do in the mean time Edit

See w:c:dev:AnswersEditButton and w:c:dev:AnswersTalkButton. -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 12:52 PM PST 19 Jun 2010

Holy mamaEdit

Thank you for the petition ... I know this probably sounds weird, but I'm actually really happy that you all are so excited and interested in the skin that you've come together to make this.

So - I just wanted to get some help understanding what y'all are after. Right now, when you're on an answered question page, you have an edit link to the top right of the answer. However, when you're on an unanswered question page, there's no link there. Is that what you'd like to rectify?

Second question - what is it that you head to that page to do? Is it editing categories on an unanswered question? (I agree that's pretty hard to do right now.)

Looking forward to your responses. --Shahid 15:51, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, thanks! It's always great when you respond as - while we know from your hard work that you're not ignoring us - I dunno... it helps.
Yes, those links are there for editing which are great. For the mainspace. Elsewhere, however, you're left high and dry with no obvious method to actually edit the page you found on a Wiki; which is unusual. :P
The other thing we're after is a button that links you to the talk page - or the page the Talk Page belongs to if appropriate. While we see the efforts to remove user talk pages and replace them with board messages (or at least that's the popular guess) - that doesn't help in the slightest for discussions needed on, say, if material is appropriate, if something's a copyvio, how best to end the edit-war, etc.
You may be interested in this. Currently we are cheating on UnAnswers - scroll to the bottom of it.
Hope I've cleared it up, punch me let me know if I havn't, and once again thanks so much for responding! A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 17:35, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki pages spluttering and dying. Edit

Hiya!

I've known for a while now that with .css, Common.css is the only way to go. However, even that is failing on UnAnswers. The result is frankly a hack; using javascript to alter the css as the page loads, which clumsily throws stuff onto the finished product ~a second after everything else is loaded.

I know you're drowning in To-Do Lists, but if you could devote some time to us having (at least one) fully functioning .css page I'd be very grateful.

Cheers! A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 17:37, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

I have found that moving my wiki's css from MediaWiki:Common.css to MediaWiki:Monaco.css worked great last night. I guess that puts and end to MediaWiki:Answers.css once and for all. I really hope it stays if that's the case because then my css will stop working once again if they change it again. Try that and see how it works for you. --Liliana (my talk). 02:15, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

SearchEdit

i keep trying to ask this question (i sometimes see this around the internet can anyone tell me what it is ) but every time i press "ask" it brings me to a search page, i dont know why & the question is driving me nuts!! please help. thanx Sw9889 (Have something to say?) 02:35, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Is the question at least three words long? A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 12:51, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
That's a special character, I get a lot of those when I am reading a page in another language. It is specially more common when people are typing with a keyboard setting not compatible with your system. You could download all keyboard sets for your system with all languages but it may take a while to find all possible characters (go to Microsoft Update). However, the reason why you can't enter it here has nothing to do with keyboard settings. Even if the question is several words long, you will be redirected to search. Same thing happened to me here and that's an issue that can't be worked around in mediawiki. Special characters just can't be inserted in questions, sorry I hope that helps. --Liliana (my talk). 08:00, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Central ForumEdit

Since our forum doesn't attract attention from wikia staff, I have gone here: http://community.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Sub-Answers_wiki_questions&t=20100531102824 ~ you may be able to answer the questions there. At least I hope so. ---- -Whiteguru (Talk) 10:30, May 31, 2010 (UTC)Whiteguru

You Have No New Messages Edit

'allo

I am convinced I've seen the updated talk page message on new Answers Wikis, but it refuses to appear here, and thus likely on other Wikis as well.

Is there any known way of getting it to work? A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 10:42, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Try inserting this in the MediaWiki:Common.css:
.usermessage { display:inline!important; }
That should do the trick =) --Liliana (my talk). 14:46, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
Nope, but thanks for trying. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 13:35, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Common.css out the window Edit

Hi.

As of today, MediaWiki:Common.css randomly fails to load on UnAnswers. As we use a dark skin, this is particularly significant.

When this occurs, MediaWiki:Common.js appears to load just fine.

I'm going to give this a Special:Contact, but thought I'd give you a shout as well.

Cheers! A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 11:42, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

You must be logged in to post messages on this board. Edit

  1. If I'm correct, this is intended to replace user talk pages. So perhaps allow those not logged in to leave messages on boards.
  2. You see this when the correct reason is "You're banned." - if possible, a seperate reason would be helpful. A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 21:27, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

<br>~~~~ Edit

^signing with that breaks the page as seen below. (Look at the links intended to be at the bottom.)

Br signature new skin

A F K sig 2 A F K When Needed 17:07, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

New Skin IssuesEdit

Please view the observations on the new skin here: http://answers.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:New_Skin_issues Ta very muchly, --Whiteguru (Talk) 12:09, June 24, 2010 (UTC)Whiteguru

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